When to use DefMod

Challenger · 01-07-2013, 03:39

Ok so I got tired of my server players complaining about slaps during trick attack/graffiti so I finally installed DefMod 3. The thing is I've also seen pros cheating during KOTH. For example, saw one guy wallieplant over the dividing wall in Airport (you know where it is). That's just cheap and I don't support it. However, I also see no turn bail and fast turns used a lot during KOTH/CTF/CZ, and that makes the game no fun for everyone else. What would be appropriate to do here?

Demo · 01-07-2013, 04:25

just get over it or play with ppl you know are trusted. it's considered cool here to use game glitches. and actually if you are talking about helipad wall then it's not even defmod.

JeZ0 · 01-07-2013, 06:42

Demo Wrote:just get over it or play with ppl you know are trusted. it's considered cool here to use game glitches. and actually if you are talking about helipad wall then it's not even defmod.

**Lyst** · 01-07-2013, 11:08

I think he means the security gate? And you do not need wallieplants to go in the direction a wallieplant would go. If you wallride it high enough then the curved ceiling will take you in that direction. And about no turn bails etc. There are not many pro's using that, because it would be noticed quite quickly by other pros. But also there there are techniques like spinning at the very last moment that allow you to land at bigger angles than you normally would be able to. So I would be careful calling people cheaters as you probably do not know the full boundaries of the THPS3 physics. If however you're sure one is cheating, just ban him == Original

Psycho · 01-07-2013, 13:39

Challenger Wrote:The thing is I've also seen pros cheating during KOTH.

Sounds like wannabe pros to me. Anyway, I gotta agree with lyst by quoting this:

lyst Wrote:And about no turn bails etc. There are not many pro's using that, because it would be noticed quite quickly by other pros.

Amen.

Challenger · 01-07-2013, 14:09

If it's cool to use glitches that doesn't make things like going outside the front doors of Airport cool, or MFG'ing during slap cool. But I don't do those things either. I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game. If everyone in a room is using the same cheat (hypothetically) then no one is really cheating, everyone is on the same level.

Psycho · 01-07-2013, 14:24

Challenger Wrote:I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game.

Yap, I gotta agree in this one as well.. I didn't start my thps3exe in weeks, once I came back yesterday I played CTF with 5 people. 3 of them were obviously using FT, these guys are the reason why I'd just like to quit this game..

shin · 01-07-2013, 14:26

Psycho Wrote:
Challenger Wrote:I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game.

Yap, I gotta agree in this one as well.. I didn't start my thps3exe in weeks, once I came back yesterday I played CTF with 5 people. 3 of them were obviously using FT, these guys are the reason why I'd just like to quit this game..

who?

For me even fast tricks are cheats Laugh

Im feeling like last standing pro in this community :mrgreen:

Psycho · 01-07-2013, 14:28

shin Wrote:
Psycho Wrote:
Challenger Wrote:I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game.

Yap, I gotta agree in this one as well.. I didn't start my thps3exe in weeks, once I came back yesterday I played CTF with 5 people. 3 of them were obviously using FT, these guys are the reason why I'd just like to quit this game..

who?

For me even fast tricks are cheats Im feeling like last standing pro in this community :mrgreen:

I'm not talking about "our (known)" guys, I'm talking about those who just keep changing their names.

Giel · 01-07-2013, 16:47

Blooming fo sure

Challenger	01-07-2013, 03:39
Wannabe Posts: 70 Joined: Dec 2012	Ok so I got tired of my server players complaining about slaps during trick attack/graffiti so I finally installed DefMod 3. The thing is I've also seen pros cheating during KOTH. For example, saw one guy wallieplant over the dividing wall in Airport (you know where it is). That's just cheap and I don't support it. However, I also see no turn bail and fast turns used a lot during KOTH/CTF/CZ, and that makes the game no fun for everyone else. What would be appropriate to do here? Follow me on PHUN Online: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://phun.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=939">http://phun.freeforums.org/memberlist.p ... file&u=939</a><!-- m -->

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JeZ0	01-07-2013, 06:42
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Lyst	01-07-2013, 11:08
Administrator \| Website Posts: 2,375 Joined: Jun 2008	I think he means the security gate? And you do not need wallieplants to go in the direction a wallieplant would go. If you wallride it high enough then the curved ceiling will take you in that direction. And about no turn bails etc. There are not many pro's using that, because it would be noticed quite quickly by other pros. But also there there are techniques like spinning at the very last moment that allow you to land at bigger angles than you normally would be able to. So I would be careful calling people cheaters as you probably do not know the full boundaries of the THPS3 physics. If however you're sure one is cheating, just ban him == Yes, but why is the rum gone?

Psycho	01-07-2013, 13:39
rockband addict Posts: 1,026 Joined: Feb 2010	Challenger Wrote:The thing is I've also seen pros cheating during KOTH. Sounds like wannabe pros to me. Anyway, I gotta agree with lyst by quoting this: lyst Wrote:And about no turn bails etc. There are not many pro's using that, because it would be noticed quite quickly by other pros. Amen.

Challenger	01-07-2013, 14:09
Wannabe Posts: 70 Joined: Dec 2012	If it's cool to use glitches that doesn't make things like going outside the front doors of Airport cool, or MFG'ing during slap cool. But I don't do those things either. I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game. If everyone in a room is using the same cheat (hypothetically) then no one is really cheating, everyone is on the same level. Follow me on PHUN Online: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://phun.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=939">http://phun.freeforums.org/memberlist.p ... file&u=939</a><!-- m -->

Psycho	01-07-2013, 14:24
rockband addict Posts: 1,026 Joined: Feb 2010	Challenger Wrote:I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game. Yap, I gotta agree in this one as well.. I didn't start my thps3exe in weeks, once I came back yesterday I played CTF with 5 people. 3 of them were obviously using FT, these guys are the reason why I'd just like to quit this game..

shin	01-07-2013, 14:26
old. \| Website Posts: 2,857 Joined: Jun 2008	Psycho Wrote: Challenger Wrote:I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game. Yap, I gotta agree in this one as well.. I didn't start my thps3exe in weeks, once I came back yesterday I played CTF with 5 people. 3 of them were obviously using FT, these guys are the reason why I'd just like to quit this game.. who? For me even fast tricks are cheats Im feeling like last standing pro in this community :mrgreen: http://pl.youtube.com/user/prozshin

Psycho	01-07-2013, 14:28
rockband addict Posts: 1,026 Joined: Feb 2010	shin Wrote: Psycho Wrote: Challenger Wrote:I was starting to get the impression that a majority of the pros (which are the ones keeping this community alive) have accepted cheating (mainly NTB and FT) as normal practice to enhance their game. Yap, I gotta agree in this one as well.. I didn't start my thps3exe in weeks, once I came back yesterday I played CTF with 5 people. 3 of them were obviously using FT, these guys are the reason why I'd just like to quit this game.. who? For me even fast tricks are cheats Im feeling like last standing pro in this community :mrgreen: I'm not talking about "our (known)" guys, I'm talking about those who just keep changing their names.

Giel	01-07-2013, 16:47
What? 180!? Posts: 202 Joined: Dec 2011	Blooming fo sure